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Riposte
07-18-2004, 08:51 AM
Ok on the flop I had 17:1 pot odds, so my gutshot draw call seemed justified. Should I have folded to the raise on the turn though? I didn't have 11:1 pot odds anymore.


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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

River: (17 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 25 BB, between MP1, SB, Hero and UTG.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (25 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows Ah Ks (one pair, aces).
Hero shows 7h 5h (straight, eight high).
UTG shows Kd Qc (high card, ace).
MP1 shows As 5c (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 25 BB. </font>

Piiop
07-18-2004, 08:58 AM
Yeah, thats just not a good turn call. You're getting 6.5:1 odds on an 11.5 shot. Not good. If it was the A /images/graemlins/heart.gif, you would absolutely call.

The flop call is good not only because of the pot odds, but because of your relative position.

Nice river.

sin808
07-18-2004, 09:34 AM
I disagree that the turn call was necessarily bad. The A gives him a double gutshot, any 2 or 6 gives him a straight. so he's something like 1:5.63.

Piiop
07-18-2004, 09:51 AM
You're right, I completely missed that.

ippo
07-18-2004, 11:58 AM
It looks like a good place for a check raise on the flop. It takes control of the hand, and on this board your draw is well disguised.

The Ad on the turn means that you have 6 clean outs - easy call.