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Toro
07-13-2004, 10:32 PM
A sure sign that your beat in a hand is when after the flop, your opponent checks and you go all-in and as he calls, he types in the chat box "sorry".

It happened in my last sng and I've posted it for your amusement. It made me laugh when it happened and I don't usually laugh when I get beat. Make sure you don't miss the 'chat' comment from the player who beat me. I actually thought I played it correctly. Comments?

PokerStars Game #542965711: Tournament #2063939, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2004/07/13 - 22:08:57 (ET)
Table '2063939 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: nutsssss (1625 in chips)
Seat 2: Crais88 (1665 in chips)
Seat 3: Toro85 (1743 in chips)
Seat 4: lLiNick1212 (1740 in chips)
Seat 5: wbennettjr (330 in chips)
Seat 6: cris09 (4620 in chips)
Seat 8: popeye57 (1212 in chips)
Seat 9: ShadowInc (565 in chips)
wbennettjr: posts small blind 50
cris09: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Toro85 [Jc Js]
popeye57: calls 100
ShadowInc: folds
nutsssss: raises 300 to 400
Crais88: folds
Toro85: calls 400
lLiNick1212: folds
wbennettjr: folds
cris09: folds
popeye57: folds
*** FLOP *** [2s 9c 9d]
nutsssss: checks
Toro85: bets 1343 and is all-in
nutsssss: calls 1225 and is all-in
nutsssss said, "sorry"
popeye57 said, "nh"
Toro85 said, " ha"
*** TURN *** [2s 9c 9d] [4c]
nutsssss said, "thanks"
*** RIVER *** [2s 9c 9d 4c] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nutsssss: shows [9h 9s] (four of a kind, Nines)
Toro85: shows [Jc Js] (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
nutsssss collected 3500 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3500 | Rake 0
Board [2s 9c 9d 4c 8c]
Seat 1: nutsssss showed [9h 9s] and won (3500) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 2: Crais88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Toro85 showed [Jc Js] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 4: lLiNick1212 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: wbennettjr (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: cris09 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: popeye57 folded before Flop
Seat 9: ShadowInc folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Navers
07-13-2004, 10:41 PM
What was your plan when overcards fell? I'm no expert, but isn't it better to push or fold in this situation?

Toro
07-13-2004, 10:48 PM
It would have depended. If an A or K fell and he made a respectable bet at the pot, I would have folded. I actually had him on AK before the flop. If he underbet with an overcard I would have come over the top of him and taken my chances that my hand was good.

I would have done what you suggested with QQ or higher. In the early and mid stages of tourneys I don't prefer to go all-in pre-flop if I can avoid it.