A/K on the button

[ftball0000]

Tryin to get better.... did I play this correctly? I am worried about calling the flop raise cold, but I think it was ok b/c the pot was big. Let me know guys

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

River: (18.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, UTG calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 20.50 BB, between Hero and UTG.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by UTG (20.50 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG shows 7h 7s (flush, queen high).
Hero shows Kd Ah (straight, ace high).
Outcome: UTG wins 20.50 BB. </font>

[tiltaholic]

hi-
I think I'd fold on the flop. With 2 people betting into you as the preflop raiser, I think they can beat a pair of aces or kings. If they can, then the pot isn't big to call 2 bets. Turn raise clearly good. River bet not good with so many players I think.
-t

[Rico Suave]

I would fold the flop.

--Rico

[Chris Daddy Cool]

Note that if this were a rainbow board, you should call the flop.

[tiltaholic]

Can you elaborate?
Are we fearing the flush that much?
-t

[Transference]

Not so much fearing the flush as sacrificing clean outs I think. Three fewer outs makes a significant impact on your odds to draw here. Also implied odds are generally reduced when flush chasers are present i.e. if they make their flush your beat, if they do not you dont collect their bets.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

In simple terms, gutshot + 2 overcards with pot odds equals a call here. With a flush draw out there and heavy action, 3 of your outs may not be good.

Calling the flop here still may be good, however, given the potsize hero's being offered.

[bisonbison]

With a flush draw out there and heavy action, 3 of your outs may not be good.

Besides, and this is small, if the flush draw out, if you hit a straight or some good pairingness you won't get paid on the river by the folding flush draws.

[tiltaholic]

Thanks. Good points. Making me think about it from a different perspective.
-t

[Chris Daddy Cool]

and this is small

eh, actually it sorta matters because that equates to something like 1 to 2 BB depending on how many flush draws were out there. That's theoretically 2 hours of poker-ing!

[Rico Suave]

bison:

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good pairingness

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I like this term. I am going to incorporate it in future posts.

--Rico

[ftball0000]

just wanted to thank everyone for the replies...

Basically the gist of the replies was that it was close between folding and calling, but that folding was better. Thanks guys

-Ftball

[bdk3clash]

Your play and this thread make me feel all warm and fuzzy. The flop is close but I think I'd have called as well. You are the man for raising the turn, and you are the motherfucking man for betting the river.

There a right way and a wrong way to lose with this hand, and you lost the right way. You played g00t.