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kyro

07-13-2004, 01:14 AM

This post serves two purposes. One, to gloat over the fact that I've been ITM in my last...wait for it....wait for it...TWO SNG's. I know, calm down, you'll have your chance. I've been running bad lately, and I think the last two tournaments have been great for my confidence. I've played well, had some hands hit, basically what I've expected from myself.

Also, I'd like you look at a few hands and tell me what you think. There aren't too many "lost at the showdown" hands...(I think I was 7/8 at one point at the showdown) but there are a variety of hands I'd like you to critique for me. Sure, I won this one, but a part of me would like to win another one /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anyways, here they are. PokerStars Limit 5+.50 SNG

Hand 1:

Table '2056806 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: chezeman (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: HighrollerJL (1680 in chips)
Seat 3: JdLewis (1760 in chips)
Seat 4: Hokiesid (1460 in chips)
Seat 5: BCSammy (1300 in chips)
Seat 6: tonimwelch (1460 in chips)
Seat 7: shortychyna (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: brokedawg (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: Chiefs2 (1380 in chips)
tonimwelch: posts small blind 10
shortychyna: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chezeman [Th Tc]
brokedawg: calls 20
Chiefs2: folds
chezeman: raises 20 to 40
HighrollerJL: folds
JdLewis: calls 40
Hokiesid: folds
BCSammy: folds
tonimwelch: calls 30
shortychyna: folds
brokedawg: calls 20
*** FLOP *** [Ah Qs 7s]
tonimwelch: checks
brokedawg: checks
chezeman: bets 20
JdLewis: folds
tonimwelch: calls 20
brokedawg: calls 20
*** TURN *** [Ah Qs 7s] [3h]
tonimwelch: checks
brokedawg: checks
chezeman: bets 40
tonimwelch: calls 40
brokedawg: folds
*** RIVER *** [Ah Qs 7s 3h] [3c]
tonimwelch: checks
chezeman: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tonimwelch: shows [4s 4d] (two pair, Fours and Threes)
chezeman: shows [Th Tc] (two pair, Tens and Threes)
chezeman collected 320 from pot

Did I get lucky here. Was the flop bet correct? The turn bet? Finally, do you check the river? I put villain on Qx and figured he was going to call regardless.

Hand 2:

*********** # 94 **************
PokerStars Game #541035180: Tournament #2056806, Hold'em Limit - Level II
(30/60) - 2004/07/12 - 23:21:10 (ET)
Table '2056806 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: chezeman (1630 in chips)
Seat 2: HighrollerJL (2775 in chips)
Seat 3: JdLewis (1700 in chips)
Seat 4: Hokiesid (1905 in chips)
Seat 5: BCSammy (575 in chips)
Seat 6: tonimwelch (1280 in chips)
Seat 7: shortychyna (1270 in chips)
Seat 8: brokedawg (1065 in chips)
Seat 9: Chiefs2 (1300 in chips)
BCSammy: posts small blind 15
tonimwelch: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chezeman [9d Td]
shortychyna: folds
brokedawg: calls 30
Chiefs2: folds
chezeman: calls 30
HighrollerJL: folds
JdLewis: folds
Hokiesid: folds
BCSammy: calls 15
tonimwelch: raises 30 to 60
brokedawg: calls 30
chezeman: calls 30
BCSammy: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [Jh 8c 4s]
BCSammy: checks
tonimwelch: checks
brokedawg: checks
chezeman: checks
*** TURN *** [Jh 8c 4s] [Qs]
BCSammy: checks
tonimwelch: checks
brokedawg: checks
chezeman: bets 60
BCSammy: folds
tonimwelch: calls 60
brokedawg: folds
*** RIVER *** [Jh 8c 4s Qs] [Ad]
tonimwelch: checks
chezeman: bets 60
tonimwelch: raises 60 to 120
chezeman: raises 60 to 180
tonimwelch: raises 60 to 240
Betting is capped
chezeman: calls 60
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tonimwelch: shows [Ac Kc] (a pair of Aces)
chezeman: shows [9d Td] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
chezeman collected 840 from pot

I'm pretty confident on my play post-flop. Obviously getting odds to the OESD. Should I be tossing this preflop either before or after the raise? I figure I'll have decent position to play soooted connectors, and after he raises now I'm getting odds.

Hand 3:

PokerStars Game #541130819: Tournament #2056806, Hold'em Limit - Level VI
(200/400) - 2004/07/12 - 23:58:08 (ET)
Table '2056806 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: chezeman (4710 in chips)
Seat 2: HighrollerJL (1630 in chips)
Seat 3: JdLewis (1625 in chips)
Seat 6: tonimwelch (4240 in chips)
Seat 7: shortychyna (1295 in chips)
chezeman: posts small blind 100
HighrollerJL: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chezeman [9s Kc]
JdLewis: folds
tonimwelch: calls 200
shortychyna: folds
chezeman: calls 100
HighrollerJL: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs Jc 9h]
chezeman: checks
HighrollerJL: bets 200
tonimwelch: calls 200
chezeman: folds

Folding my only option?

Hand 4:

PokerStars Game #541159959: Tournament #2056806, Hold'em Limit - Level VII
(300/600) - 2004/07/13 - 00:09:17 (ET)
Table '2056806 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: chezeman (5060 in chips)
Seat 2: HighrollerJL (4925 in chips)
Seat 3: JdLewis (1625 in chips)
Seat 6: tonimwelch (1890 in chips)
chezeman: posts small blind 150
HighrollerJL: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chezeman [6c 5s]
JdLewis: folds
tonimwelch has timed out while disconnected
tonimwelch: folds
chezeman: calls 150
HighrollerJL: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac Kd Ad]
chezeman: bets 300
HighrollerJL: folds
chezeman collected 600 from pot
chezeman: doesn't show hand

This guy played about as straight-forward as possible. If he calls, I'm certainly beat and go into check-fold mode. But, I'm guessing unless he has an A or a K (he for one would have raised with A, he capped my TT with A2o HU) or any pocket pair, he'll fold. Agree with this bet?

One more. For all you bad beat lovers out there. /images/graemlins/smile.gif It's HU, I just about have him finished. And he does this to me. Schmuck.

Hand 5:

PokerStars Game #541189778: Tournament #2056806, Hold'em Limit - Level VIII
(400/800) - 2004/07/13 - 00:21:12 (ET)
Table '2056806 1' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: chezeman (11620 in chips)
Seat 2: HighrollerJL (1880 in chips)
HighrollerJL: posts small blind 200
chezeman: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chezeman [Kd Kc]
HighrollerJL: calls 200
chezeman: raises 400 to 800
HighrollerJL: raises 400 to 1200
chezeman: raises 400 to 1600
Betting is capped
HighrollerJL: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [Qc 9c 7h]
chezeman: bets 400
HighrollerJL: calls 280 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Qc 9c 7h] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 9c 7h 3s] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chezeman: shows [Kd Kc] (a pair of Kings)
HighrollerJL: shows [8s Th] (a straight, Six to Ten)
HighrollerJL collected 3760 from pot

No complaints from me tonight. Unlike last night where I nearly cursed the guy out when his A2s flushed away my AA. I just shook my head and focused on outplaying him, which I honestly think I did.

I apologize for the length of this, but like I said, I just want to improve. If anyone can offer insight on ANY of these hands, that would be wonderful. As always, good luck at the tables....unless you're at my table of course.

kyro

kyro

07-13-2004, 08:30 AM

This post also serves two purposes. One to bump /images/graemlins/smile.gif

And the other to let you know I'm chezeman. In case you couldn't tell. You should also see my avatar in Stars. Quite possibly the ugliest picture on that site right now.

Hood

07-13-2004, 09:15 AM

You'll often find you'll get more of a response if you convert 'em:

HAND 1

PokerStars (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of 10.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG folds.

River: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot:
Main Pot: > Pot won by Hero ().

Results in white below: 
SB doesn't show.
Hero shows Th Tc (two pair, tens and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins . 

HAND #2

PokerStars (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of 10.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG folds.

River: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot:
Main Pot: > Pot won by Hero ().

Results in white below: 
SB doesn't show.
Hero shows Th Tc (two pair, tens and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins . 

HAND #3

PokerStars (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of 100.
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks,

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)

Final Pot:
Main Pot: > Split: Hero (), BB (), MP ().

Results in white below: 
Hero doesn't show.
BB doesn't show.
MP doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins . BB wins . MP wins . 

HAND #4

PokerStars (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif. Hero posts a blind of 150.
2 folds, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks,

Flop: A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Final Pot:
Main Pot: > Split: Hero (), BB ().

Results in white below: 
Hero doesn't show.
BB doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins . BB wins . 

HAND #5

PokerStars (2 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. Button posts a blind of 200.
Button (poster) calls, Hero raises, Button raises, Hero raises, Button calls.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls 280 (All-In).

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot:
Main Pot: > Pot won by Hero ().
Pot 2: 

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Kd Kc (one pair, kings).
Button doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins .

kyro

07-13-2004, 10:05 AM

I tried prettying it up, but the converter doesn't seem to give stack sizes, so I went with the ugly way instead.

La Brujita

07-13-2004, 10:26 AM

I also much prefer the cleaned up info fwiw. My thoughts:

Hand 1:

I think your play is good. I might have limped preflop because of small blind size but I think raising may well be better.

I bet the flop as well although it is a horrible flop for you. I think with two callers you will be behind most of the time.

Perhaps a check on the turn would be better, hard to say definitively but to me it is unlikely that both are drawing and the made hands have you beat most likely. Especially with people playing weak aces. I check the river as well.

Hand 2:

Well played, I play preflop and the flop the same. I might try for the check raise on the turn but perhaps leading out is better due to flush draw?

Hand 3:

I would have led out at the flop or as a second alternative check raised. I think folding here is a bit weak tight. You have a pair an inside straight draw and a "tainted" overcard. For me that is plenty for a bet three handed.

Hand 4:

I bet here as well. It would have been easier to sell a big hand if you had raised preflop which I would have considered given you are the big stack and your description of your opponent.

Hand 5:

Unlucky.

kyro

07-13-2004, 12:16 PM

Thanks La Brujita. My thoughts on your thoughts. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

1. I obviously wanted to represent the A. I probably should have checked the turn, but at the time I decided my only chance to win the hand was another bet. On a side note, I was thrilled to find someone at my table calling a raise PF, and then calling me on the flop and turn with A and Q out there as he held 44 waiting for his two-outer. Brilliant.

3. You really think the bet and or check/raise do anything for me? Sure, I have a pair, but bottom pair on a "high" board. I feel the chances that someone has Q or J are good. Also, I can't imagine my K being outs. I may be giving my opponents too much credit for holding a T...but it seems like my attempts to be aggressive have blown up in my face recently. I'll look at this one more.

4. I wouldn't raise him. He'll call my raises in the BB with almost anything. He was one of two guys I had a decent read on. Incredibly loose-passive. He could have T5o and would call my raise, so I figured I'd see what the flop brought and go from there.

5. Oh, so I played it OK? I was thinking of folding to his reraise PF because he might have AA. /images/graemlins/wink.gif