SnG marathon (Replayer hands Big Pairs)

[stupidsucker]

I wanted to wait till I had a decent slew of hands so I could make some posts like this as subjects.

I picked an easy/boring one to do first to get the hang of it, so I can make some of the more interesting ones even better.

The following post is AA and KK only. It is in natural HH form, and it is written out with commentary meant to be played on the replayer.

Download the replayer (http://www.tightpoker.com/replayer/replayer.zip), or check out the Replayer website. (http://teamfu.freeshell.org/replayer.html)

You can use the replayer from the web, but I think it works faster if you download it. Simply cut and paste the following HHs into the box.

I look forward to hearing some suggestions on subjects to tackle, and the format to use. Hope this helps my game, and possibly some others who are starting out on SnGs. All you SnG Gurus please get involved in helping me out to make this a good series.

Stats so far.
10's
66 played
$585 profit
56% ITM
80% RoI

20's
45 played
$130 profit
33.33% ITM
13% RoI (YUCK)

The 20's havent been harder, just a little rough patch. My last 4 were 3rd, 4th,4th,4th. With the incredible luck I had at the 10's I am fine with a rough start at the 20's, but my RoI better increase.

Original post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/favlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=27384&F_Board=singletable &Thread=793673)
Week one (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/favlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=27383&F_Board=singletable &Thread=812164&partnumber=&postmarker=)
Move up early? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=singletable&Number=817984& fpart=&PHPSESSID=)

Some of the future subjects I would like to hit on are:
HU play
Stealing those blinds
Overplaying hands preflop

[stupidsucker]

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***** Hand History for Game 735272590 *****
15/30 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4575080) - THU JUL 08 15:22:35 EDT 2004
Table Table 11511 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (635)
Seat 2: mammyscooter (1095)
Seat 4: cbsnw (895)
Seat 5: pokerstudAA (1270)
Seat 6: BenChoute (705)
Seat 7: DoorFrame (785)
Seat 8: Husky02 (700)
Seat 9: Chechkin (1135)
Seat 10: merrelland (780)
BenChoute posts small blind (10)
DoorFrame posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Ah, Ad ]
Husky02 calls (15)
Chechkin folds.
merrelland folds.
<< OK Ive got AA with one limper T75 sounds good to me (Should I be raising more with AA?) Its level one I certainly dont want to limp or minraise.
Vrel_sz raises (75) to 75
mammyscooter folds.
cbsnw folds.
pokerstudAA folds.
BenChoute folds.
DoorFrame folds.
Husky02 calls (60)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qd, Jc, Tc ]
Husky02 bets (125)
<< One caller, and now he is betting into this flop. 2card flush and a 3card str8 of which I have the inside on. What do you do?
<< Well I dont want to lay it down, and since I cant afford to let him draw I am going to push. If he has AJ then hats off
Vrel_sz raises (560) to 560
Vrel_sz is all-In.
Husky02 calls (435)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2d ]
<< UGLY Turn card! That right there is the reason you cant let people see cheap turns. Even if they dont have the cards, if they are aggressive enough then you may have to lay down the best hand
Creating Main Pot with $1295 with Vrel_sz
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1295 |
Board: [ Qd Jc Tc Qc 2d ]
Vrel_sz balance 1295, bet 635, collected 1295, net +660 [ Ah Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- Ah,Ad,Qd,Qc,Jc ]
mammyscooter balance 1095, didn't bet (folded)
cbsnw balance 895, didn't bet (folded)
pokerstudAA balance 1270, didn't bet (folded)
BenChoute balance 695, lost 10 (folded)
DoorFrame balance 770, lost 15 (folded)
Husky02 balance 65, lost 635 [ Jd 9d ] [ two pairs, queens and jacks -- Qd,Qc,Jd,Jc,Tc ]
Chechkin balance 1135, didn't bet (folded)
merrelland balance 780, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 745080583 *****
50/100 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4639146) - SUN JUL 11 22:59:13 EDT 2004
Table Table 13784 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (580)
Seat 2: JOHN_E_VEGAS (1270)
Seat 3: Bobs58 (950)
Seat 4: phunktrain (2260)
Seat 7: Jodantc (825)
Seat 9: Dav123 (610)
Seat 10: BIGCHIEFMAN (1505)
JOHN_E_VEGAS posts small blind (25)
Bobs58 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Ah, Ac ]
phunktrain folds.
Jodantc calls (50)
Dav123 folds.
BIGCHIEFMAN folds.
Vrel_sz raises (125) to 125
JOHN_E_VEGAS folds.
Bobs58 calls (75)
Jodantc calls (75)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, 9c, Kc ]
Bobs58 bets (825)
Bobs58 is all-In.
Jodantc calls (700)
Jodantc is all-In.
<< HRM almost the same flop as last time. A pusher, and a caller both all in. Do you lay this down ??
<< I don't lay it down. I figure the pusher for the open end or maybe a flush draw. I don't have the inside draw here like last time
Vrel_sz calls (455)
Vrel_sz is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 3d ]
Creating Main Pot with $1765 with Vrel_sz
Creating Side Pot 1 with $490 with Jodantc
Creating Side Pot 2 with $125 with Bobs58
<< In retrospect this would have been a good time to lay down AA. QJ isnt that unlikely. I have the Ace of clubs so it is less likely someone pushed on the flush draw. Someone could have 2 pair or even a set. The blinds are still small, and there is no reason to go out now with enough chips to battle back. None the less I have had AA 39 times and this is my only loss so far (I am getting lucky)
<< SOoo what do you all think? Is it too weak to lay this down? or a good laydown. I think it would have been a good laydown, and I got attached to my hand. It was the second all in that should have sent my alarm off.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1765 | Side Pot 1: 490 | Side Pot 2: 125
Board: [ Td 9c Kc 8d 3d ]
Vrel_sz balance 0, lost 580 [ Ah Ac ] [ a pair of aces -- Ah,Ac,Kc,Td,9c ]
JOHN_E_VEGAS balance 1245, lost 25 (folded)
Bobs58 balance 125, bet 950, collected 125, lost -825 [ Qs Th ] [ a pair of tens -- Kc,Qs,Th,Td,9c ]
phunktrain balance 2260, didn't bet (folded)
Jodantc balance 2255, bet 825, collected 2255, net +1430 [ Jh Qh ] [ a straight, nine to king -- Kc,Qh,Jh,Td,9c ]
Dav123 balance 610, didn't bet (folded)
BIGCHIEFMAN balance 1505, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 741268542 *****
500/1000 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4614177) - SAT JUL 10 18:12:46 EDT 2004
Table Table 11696 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 9: Nicolo77 (2500)
Seat 10: Vrel_sz (5500)
Nicolo77 posts small blind (250)
Vrel_sz posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Ks, Kd ]
Nicolo77 raises (750) to 1000
<< Here I am HU with a MONSTER! I just call hoping he will be aggressive on the flop.
Vrel_sz calls (500)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8c, Th, 6s ]
Vrel_sz checks.
Nicolo77 bets (700)
<< OK set him all in now? or see one more card?
<< I go with the call thinking he will surely bet the turn too, and I dont feel the board is dangerous.
Vrel_sz calls (700)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ]
Vrel_sz checks.
Nicolo77 checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
Vrel_sz bets (1500)
<< Damn it, he didnt go for it, I cant risk another check, I have to go for the win now.
Nicolo77 folds.
<< Nicolo77 comes back to win this one.(Amazing winning hand after hand, and my HU needs work IMO) Should I have tried to drive the nail in when he probably still had a draw?
<< I think I should have bet the turn
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4900
Board: [ 8c Th 6s 5d 5c ]
Nicolo77 balance 800, lost 1700 (folded)
Vrel_sz balance 7200, bet 3200, collected 4900, net +1700

<< Some heartbreakers

***** Hand History for Game 739435531 *****
400/800 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4601998) - SAT JUL 10 00:29:34 EDT 2004
Table Table 11573 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (5520)
Seat 5: BrassNut (1820)
Seat 7: blumenluv (660)
blumenluv posts small blind (200)
Vrel_sz posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Kc, Ks ]
BrassNut: I rarely bluff
BrassNut folds.
BrassNut: just had to show
blumenluv calls (200)
Vrel_sz raises (400) to 800
blumenluv calls (260)
blumenluv is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 3s, Qc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9c ]
Creating Main Pot with $1320 with blumenluv
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1320 | Side Pot 1: 140
Board: [ Th 3s Qc 7h 9c ]
Vrel_sz balance 4860, bet 800, collected 140, lost -660 [ Kc Ks ] [ a pair of kings -- Kc,Ks,Qc,Th,9c ]
BrassNut balance 1820, didn't bet (folded)
blumenluv balance 1320, bet 660, collected 1320, net +660 [ Qh 3h ] [ two pairs, queens and threes -- Qh,Qc,Th,3h,3s ]
<< Continue..

***** Hand History for Game 742503851 *****
400/800 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4621732) - SUN JUL 11 01:20:24 EDT 2004
Table Table 13853 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (5450)
Seat 3: msugreen (1470)
Seat 8: phyquetwo (1080)
Vrel_sz posts small blind (200)
msugreen posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Kh, Kd ]
phyquetwo raises (1080) to 1080
phyquetwo is all-In.
Vrel_sz calls (880)
msugreen folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jh, Qc, 6h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 3c ]
Creating Main Pot with $2560 with phyquetwo
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2560 |
Board: [ Jh Qc 6h 7s 3c ]
Vrel_sz balance 4370, lost 1080 [ Kh Kd ] [ a pair of kings -- Kh,Kd,Qc,Jh,7s ]
msugreen balance 1070, lost 400 (folded)
phyquetwo balance 2560, bet 1080, collected 2560, net +1480 [ Jd Js ] [ three of a kind, jacks -- Qc,Jd,Js,Jh,7s ]

<< and when is the only time you DONT want KK ??

***** Hand History for Game 735307470 *****
50/100 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4575078) - THU JUL 08 15:40:26 EDT 2004
Table Table 11509 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (585)
Seat 5: Bootney1 (2740)
Seat 6: hage__ (1105)
Seat 7: AGLFE112 (572)
Seat 8: ckeddie69 (2293)
Seat 10: dozierb (705)
AGLFE112 posts small blind (25)
ckeddie69 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Kh, Kd ]
dozierb calls (50)
dozierb: vnh
hage__: vn
AGLFE112: puahahha nh bootney
Bootney1: nice flop
Vrel_sz raises (200) to 200
Bootney1 folds.
hage__ raises (600) to 600
AGLFE112 folds.
ckeddie69 folds.
dozierb raises (655) to 705
dozierb is all-In.
Vrel_sz calls (385)
Vrel_sz is all-In.
hage__ calls (105)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, 9d, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6s ]
Creating Main Pot with $1830 with Vrel_sz
Creating Side Pot 1 with $240 with dozierb
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1830 | Side Pot 1: 240 |
Board: [ Jd 9d 6d 8s 6s ]
Vrel_sz balance 0, lost 585 [ Kh Kd ] [ two pairs, kings and sixes -- Kh,Kd,Jd,6d,6s ]
Bootney1 balance 2740, didn't bet (folded)
hage__ balance 400, lost 705 [ Tc Td ] [ two pairs, tens and sixes -- Jd,Tc,Td,6d,6s ]
AGLFE112 balance 547, lost 25 (folded)
ckeddie69 balance 2243, lost 50 (folded)
dozierb balance 2070, bet 705, collected 2070, net +1365 [ Ad Ac ] [ two pairs, aces and sixes -- Ad,Ac,Jd,6d,6s ]
<< Continue...

***** Hand History for Game 743722816 *****
50/100 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4629708) - SUN JUL 11 14:59:01 EDT 2004
Table Table 13785 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: fuddman (1918)
Seat 2: vienna1man (1818)
Seat 3: goBlue2005 (1177)
Seat 5: kcb076 (475)
Seat 6: MuffySlaw (500)
Seat 9: snakeyesh2o (1232)
Seat 10: Vrel_sz (880)
Vrel_sz posts small blind (25)
fuddman posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Kc, Kd ]
vienna1man raises (100) to 100
goBlue2005 folds.
kcb076 raises (475) to 475
kcb076 is all-In.
MuffySlaw folds.
snakeyesh2o folds.
Vrel_sz calls (450)
fuddman folds.
vienna1man raises (750) to 850
Vrel_sz raises (405) to 880
Vrel_sz is all-In.
vienna1man calls (30)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2c, 7s, Qs ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Tc ]
Creating Main Pot with $1475 with kcb076
Creating Side Pot 1 with $810 with Vrel_sz
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1475 | Side Pot 1: 810 |
Board: [ 2c 7s Qs 7h Tc ]
fuddman balance 1868, lost 50 (folded)
vienna1man balance 3223, bet 880, collected 2285, net +1405 [ Ac As ] [ two pairs, aces and sevens -- Ac,As,Qs,7s,7h ]
goBlue2005 balance 1177, didn't bet (folded)
kcb076 balance 0, lost 475 [ Jd Jc ] [ two pairs, jacks and sevens -- Qs,Jd,Jc,7s,7h ]
MuffySlaw balance 500, didn't bet (folded)
snakeyesh2o balance 1232, didn't bet (folded)
Vrel_sz balance 0, lost 880 [ Kc Kd ] [ two pairs, kings and sevens -- Kc,Kd,Qs,7s,7h ]
<< Continue...

***** Hand History for Game 744034101 *****
15/30 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4632413) - SUN JUL 11 16:57:17 EDT 2004
Table Table 14274 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (785)
Seat 3: Gattanella (800)
Seat 4: marcoardov (800)
Seat 5: abroth (800)
Seat 6: vfw9724 (1660)
Seat 7: IAmYoDaddy (785)
Seat 8: Frozenhead (770)
Seat 9: soulbruda (710)
Seat 10: LBMason (890)
Vrel_sz posts small blind (10)
Gattanella posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Kh, Kc ]
marcoardov folds.
abroth folds.
vfw9724 folds.
IAmYoDaddy raises (30) to 30
Frozenhead folds.
soulbruda calls (30)
LBMason folds.
<< Dont you just love getting bet into with a hand like this? OK OK its only a min raise, but I think I can keep him in if I dont over bet
Vrel_sz raises (90) to 100
Gattanella folds.
IAmYoDaddy raises (140) to 170
<< Is he testing me?? I dont want to bet too much and scare him away. Is calling an option, or should I push now?
soulbruda folds.
Vrel_sz raises (300) to 400
IAmYoDaddy raises (615) to 785
IAmYoDaddy is all-In.
<< OK lets GAMBLE!
Vrel_sz calls (385)
Vrel_sz is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, Ad, Ac ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]
<< I sure dont like that board(of course I saw his hand before I saw the flop), I was putting him on AK for a possible hand. I was horribly wrong.
Creating Main Pot with $1615 with Vrel_sz,IAmYoDaddy
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1615
Board: [ Td Ad Ac Js Jc ]
Vrel_sz balance 0, lost 785 [ Kh Kc ] [ two pairs, aces and kings -- Ad,Ac,Kh,Kc,Js ]
Gattanella balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
marcoardov balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
abroth balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
vfw9724 balance 1660, didn't bet (folded)
IAmYoDaddy balance 1615, bet 785, collected 1615, net +830 [ As Ah ] [ four of a kind, aces -- As,Ah,Ad,Ac,Js ]
<< Its not like I can lay this down perflop, but was it a good time to just call and see the flop, instead of raising up to 400??
<< I dont think I could have avoided disater no matter what. This isnt a "Bad Beat" Its just part of poker. This was my second KK Vs AA in one day and the third out of the entire run. It happens, and the best thing to do is move on to the next one.
Frozenhead balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
soulbruda balance 680, lost 30 (folded)
LBMason balance 890, didn't bet (folded)


<< Here are a few more with little/no commentary. Let me know if you see anything horrible please.

***** Hand History for Game 745282210 *****
200/400 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4640431) - MON JUL 12 00:02:54 EDT 2004
Table Table 13945 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (1730)
Seat 2: Qualst (2835)
Seat 4: spleethan2 (760)
Seat 10: VllgIdiot (2675)
spleethan2 posts small blind (100)
VllgIdiot posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ As, Ah ]
Vrel_sz raises (400) to 400
Qualst calls (400)
spleethan2 folds.
VllgIdiot calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, Th, 6d ]
VllgIdiot checks.
<< Is it ok to slow this set?
Vrel_sz checks.
Qualst checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qh ]
VllgIdiot checks.
Vrel_sz bets (600)
Qualst folds.
VllgIdiot folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1900
Board: [ Ac Th 6d Qh ]
Vrel_sz balance 2630, bet 1000, collected 1900, net +900
Qualst balance 2435, lost 400 (folded)
spleethan2 balance 660, lost 100 (folded)
VllgIdiot balance 2275, lost 400 (folded)
<< Continue...

***** Hand History for Game 745134129 *****
15/30 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4640047) - SUN JUL 11 23:15:46 EDT 2004
Table Table 14282 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: crazor99 (590)
Seat 2: taxi1 (800)
Seat 3: KimballC (575)
Seat 4: whrimfunis (860)
Seat 5: TripDueces13 (805)
Seat 6: peja830 (795)
Seat 7: samy93 (755)
Seat 8: dutchwolfman (1295)
Seat 9: DPal0483 (755)
Seat 10: Vrel_sz (770)
DPal0483 posts small blind (10)
Vrel_sz posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ As, Ac ]
crazor99 folds.
taxi1 folds.
KimballC folds.
whrimfunis folds.
TripDueces13 folds.
peja830 folds.
samy93 calls (15)
dutchwolfman raises (30) to 30
DPal0483 folds.
Vrel_sz raises (110) to 125
samy93 folds.
dutchwolfman calls (95)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, 7h, 7d ]
<< How about slowing this flop? I doubt he has anything for this hand, and if he does I probably have to call anyways.
Vrel_sz checks.
dutchwolfman checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9c ]
Vrel_sz bets (275)
dutchwolfman folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 550
Board: [ 6h 7h 7d 9c ]
crazor99 balance 590, didn't bet (folded)
taxi1 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
KimballC balance 575, didn't bet (folded)
whrimfunis balance 860, didn't bet (folded)
TripDueces13 balance 805, didn't bet (folded)
peja830 balance 795, didn't bet (folded)
samy93 balance 740, lost 15 (folded)
dutchwolfman balance 1170, lost 125 (folded)
DPal0483 balance 745, lost 10 (folded)
Vrel_sz balance 920, bet 400, collected 550, net +150
<< Continue...

***** Hand History for Game 745242072 *****
50/100 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4640431) - SUN JUL 11 23:50:06 EDT 2004
Table Table 13945 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (2050)
Seat 2: Qualst (805)
Seat 4: spleethan2 (1635)
Seat 7: Samps0n420 (1070)
Seat 8: fattyzjoint (605)
Seat 9: JOHN_E_VEGAS (545)
Seat 10: VllgIdiot (1290)
JOHN_E_VEGAS posts small blind (25)
VllgIdiot posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Ah, Ad ]
Vrel_sz raises (175) to 175
Qualst folds.
spleethan2 folds.
Samps0n420 folds.
fattyzjoint raises (605) to 605
fattyzjoint is all-In.
JOHN_E_VEGAS folds.
VllgIdiot folds.
Vrel_sz calls (430)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5s, 7h, Qc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ As ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 4c ]
Creating Main Pot with $1285 with fattyzjoint
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1285 |
Board: [ 5s 7h Qc As 4c ]
Vrel_sz balance 2730, bet 605, collected 1285, net +680 [ Ah Ad ] [ three of a kind, aces -- Ah,Ad,As,Qc,7h ]
Qualst balance 805, didn't bet (folded)
spleethan2 balance 1635, didn't bet (folded)
Samps0n420 balance 1070, didn't bet (folded)
fattyzjoint balance 0, lost 605 [ Kd Kc ] [ a pair of kings -- As,Kd,Kc,Qc,7h ]
<< Sometimes you are on the right end of this one.
JOHN_E_VEGAS balance 520, lost 25 (folded)
VllgIdiot balance 1240, lost 50 (folded)
<< Continue...

***** Hand History for Game 739420235 *****
50/100 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4602279) - SAT JUL 10 00:24:30 EDT 2004
Table Table 11480 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: djpatsajak (770)
Seat 5: Megaton_Man (1320)
Seat 6: abccash (650)
Seat 7: angelena (1880)
Seat 8: jlk2282 (723)
Seat 9: bor474 (1117)
Seat 10: Vrel_sz (1540)
Megaton_Man posts small blind (25)
abccash posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Ac, Ad ]
angelena calls (50)
jlk2282 folds.
bor474 folds.
Vrel_sz raises (200) to 200
djpatsajak folds.
Megaton_Man folds.
abccash folds.
angelena calls (150)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2d, 6h, Qh ]
angelena checks.
<< Whats your move?
Vrel_sz bets (600)
angelena calls (600)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jd ]
angelena checks.
Vrel_sz bets (740)
Vrel_sz is all-In.
angelena calls (740)
** Dealing River ** : [ 4s ]
Creating Main Pot with $3155 with Vrel_sz
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3155 |
Board: [ 2d 6h Qh Jd 4s ]
djpatsajak balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
Megaton_Man balance 1295, lost 25 (folded)
abccash balance 600, lost 50 (folded)
angelena balance 340, lost 1540 [ Qd 3d ] [ a pair of queens -- Qd,Qh,Jd,6h,4s ]
jlk2282 balance 723, didn't bet (folded)
bor474 balance 1117, didn't bet (folded)
Vrel_sz balance 3155, bet 1540, collected 3155, net +1615 [ Ac Ad ] [ a pair of aces -- Ac,Ad,Qh,Jd,6h ]
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***** Hand History for Game 742869945 *****
100/200 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4624398) - SUN JUL 11 04:13:29 EDT 2004
Table Table 13804 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: MONKEYTWO (330)
Seat 3: equatorhead (1663)
Seat 6: Archeologist (2255)
Seat 7: Lewdawg707 (1525)
Seat 8: birdhas_uwl (927)
Seat 10: Vrel_sz (1300)
birdhas_uwl posts small blind (50)
Vrel_sz posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Ah, Ac ]
MONKEYTWO calls (100)
equatorhead folds.
Archeologist folds.
Lewdawg707 folds.
birdhas_uwl raises (250) to 300
Vrel_sz calls (200)
MONKEYTWO raises (230) to 330
MONKEYTWO is all-In.
birdhas_uwl calls (30)
<< Did I screw up by not raising? Now I cant raise because of the incomplete bet from the ALL IN. I got what I wanted .. the all in, but the chips I really want I cant get in the pot preflop.
Vrel_sz calls (30)
Creating Main Pot with $990 with MONKEYTWO
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Js, 2c, 9h ]
birdhas_uwl checks.
Vrel_sz bets (300)
birdhas_uwl folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 990 | Side Pot 1: 300
Board: [ Js 2c 9h Qd Qs ]
MONKEYTWO balance 0, lost 330 [ As 4h ] [ a pair of queens -- As,Qd,Qs,Js,9h ]
equatorhead balance 1663, didn't bet (folded)
Archeologist balance 2255, didn't bet (folded)
Lewdawg707 balance 1525, didn't bet (folded)
birdhas_uwl balance 597, lost 330 (folded)
Vrel_sz balance 1960, bet 630, collected 1290, net +660 [ Ah Ac ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- Ah,Ac,Qd,Qs,Js ]

***** Hand History for Game 739985245 *****
30/60 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4606291) - SAT JUL 10 04:24:12 EDT 2004
Table Table 11479 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (885)
Seat 2: thewho420 (1575)
Seat 4: Latreka (910)
Seat 5: iamreefer (1040)
Seat 6: PokerOnce4Me (1285)
Seat 7: BlueBros (485)
Seat 8: skinsfan1964 (1045)
Seat 10: happaman125 (775)
skinsfan1964 posts small blind (15)
happaman125 posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Kh, Kc ]
Vrel_sz raises (100) to 100
thewho420 folds.
Latreka calls (100)
iamreefer folds.
PokerOnce4Me folds.
BlueBros folds.
skinsfan1964 calls (85)
happaman125 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, 5h, 2s ]
skinsfan1964 checks.
Vrel_sz bets (300)
Latreka folds.
skinsfan1964 calls (300)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7c ]
skinsfan1964 bets (645)
skinsfan1964 is all-In.
Vrel_sz calls (485)
Vrel_sz is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ 3s ]
Creating Main Pot with $1900 with Vrel_sz
Creating Side Pot 1 with $160 with skinsfan1964
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1900 | Side Pot 1: 160
Board: [ 7d 5h 2s 7c 3s ]
Vrel_sz balance 1900, bet 885, collected 1900, net +1015 [ Kh Kc ] [ two pairs, kings and sevens -- Kh,Kc,7d,7c,5h ]
thewho420 balance 1575, didn't bet (folded)
Latreka balance 810, lost 100 (folded)
iamreefer balance 1040, didn't bet (folded)
PokerOnce4Me balance 1285, didn't bet (folded)
BlueBros balance 485, didn't bet (folded)
skinsfan1964 balance 160, bet 1045, collected 160, lost -885 [ Tc Td ] [ two pairs, tens and sevens -- Tc,Td,7d,7c,5h ]
happaman125 balance 745, lost 30 (folded)
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***** Hand History for Game 739976083 *****
50/100 TOURNEYTEXASHTGAMETABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 4606183) - SAT JUL 10 04:17:53 EDT 2004
Table Table 11235 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Vrel_sz (805)
Seat 2: nywomen (585)
Seat 4: Buddy1130 (1880)
Seat 6: tekeman (740)
Seat 7: OmahaJason (1080)
Seat 9: keisx9 (1080)
Seat 10: XquiZZiT (1830)
Vrel_sz posts small blind (25)
nywomen posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Vrel_sz [ Kh, Ks ]
Buddy1130 calls (50)
tekeman folds.
OmahaJason folds.
keisx9 folds.
XquiZZiT folds.
Vrel_sz raises (175) to 200
nywomen calls (150)
Buddy1130 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, Jd, 6s ]
Vrel_sz checks.
nywomen bets (385)
nywomen is all-In.
Vrel_sz calls (385)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7d ]
Creating Main Pot with $1220 with nywomen
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1220 |
Board: [ 6c Jd 6s 6d 7d ]
Vrel_sz balance 1440, bet 585, collected 1220, net +635 [ Kh Ks ] [ a full house, Sixes full of kings -- Kh,Ks,6c,6s,6d ]
nywomen balance 0, lost 585 [ Ah 9s ] [ three of a kind, sixes -- Ah,Jd,6c,6s,6d ]
<< I hope you enjoyed this a little. I didnt want to cram too much in here, and this was the first time Ive used the replayer. In the future I would like to hit some better plays. Big pairs are fairly easy to play, and I dont have enough interesting ones yet to replay. I want as many comments as possible So we can all learn from it a little.
<< I would like to hear some suggestions on the hands played as well as the format I did this in. This was more of a test run then anything.
Buddy1130 balance 1830, lost 50 (folded)
tekeman balance 740, didn't bet (folded)
OmahaJason balance 1080, didn't bet (folded)
keisx9 balance 1080, didn't bet (folded)
XquiZZiT balance 1830, didn't bet (folded)

[BrettK]

Thanks for posting this. It was a blast to watch. I can't wait to see more in the future, but I wouldn't personally recommend that anyone else view it on blitz. It goes a bit too quickly for me.

Brett

[stupidsucker]

Thanks a lot for the response. I hope people get something out of this, and it should help my game too.

It took me over an hour to review and enter the hands in with commentary.(Next time should be faster) So if people dont like this, then Im not going to waste my time.

Any more suggestions are welcome... Is blitz too fast to see the action?

[Roman]

only two hands where I didn't really agree with your play were hands 2 and 3.

Hand 2: ALWAYS raise more with AA in this position. You are most likely going to back your whole stack with AA, so don't let people bust you for 75 T$. Either raise to 200 or push there hoping people think you are on a steal.

Hand 3: I would either min raise back PF because he cant fold to that and it totally comits him. You can then either set him in on the flop or let him hang himself.

Otherwise all play seems straightforward.

[stupidsucker]

A lot of people like to raise to 150-200ish with big pairs in early rounds.

I dont know if I like it. I guess I feel that in doing so I pick up the tiny blinds too often, and never get any value for the AA. Throwing in a bet for $200 right away will often scare some hands away like AT or AQ. I want people to call my preflop bet, but I dont want to be up against more then 2 people at the flop.

I Cant think of many times where its proper to coldcall a huge raise preflop, and even the party suckers will often fold to the big raise. I feel I get a lot more value by betting a reasonable amount. It also gives me more chance to set anyone all in if they try to make a play back at me.

Anyone else have thoughts on starting bet for AA or KK?

On hand #3.. Isnt this the HU match? Dont you think slowplaying a monster HU is a good idea? If I move all in there is a good chance he will fold. I want him to be the aggressor and run into a brick wall...

[AtlBrvs4Life]

I am just going to post about the hands that I think could have been played a little differently.

Hand 2: Raising more pre-flop is a must. With a limper behind, 4-5xBB is a good sized raise as opposed to the 2.5xBB raise you made. I'm not sure if this would have changed anything, but the limper would have had to make a major mistake calling such a raise with only QJ. The small raise is giving him the correct odds to call.

Hand 3: With the blinds at 250/500 and his raise to 1000, he is going to call an all-in raise pre-flop 90% of the time. If he doesn't, so be it, you just took 40% of his stack without having to see a flop.

Hand 7: Not that it would change anything, but when the action gets to me, I would push right there as opposed to just calling.

Hand 9: I'm not a big fan of min raises.

Hand 13: Reraise, don't call pre-flop.

Hand 15: I like the check on the flop. Desperate short stack is bound to go all-in here.

Edit: Great post. I enjoyed watching these a lot. I might have to make my own post with comments in the hand histories. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ddubois]

Hand 2: Raising more pre-flop is a must. With a limper behind, 4-5xBB is a good sized raise as opposed to the 2.5xBB raise you made. I'm not sure if this would have changed anything, but the limper would have had to make a major mistake calling such a raise with only QJ. The small raise is giving him the correct odds to call.

To expand on this...

Let's suppose two things:
1) Hero flips his AA face up before anyone has to act
2) Hero tells the table "I will push all-in on this flop, regardless of what comes out"

Hero is only a 4:1 favorite over QJs. Therefore, QJs needs to get merely 300 from pot+hero when its 75 back to him (175 in pot already, hero has 455 left). If hero bets 200 instead of 125, QJs needs to get 600 from pot+hero when its 150 back to him (250 in pot already, hero has 380 left). In this case, with hero's small stack he can lay QJs incorrect odds with a 200 raise. But if hero's stack was 900, would we tell Hero he has to bet over 300 to "keep QJs from getting odds to call" (cost 250:win 300+50+600)? I think most people would say 300 is a massive overbet. So alot of people would respond that NL tournament play isn't always about giving someone correct or incorrect odds, it's about aggression, fold equity, putting pressure on people, etc.

PS: The above numerical analysis is fatally flawed because QJs can't see the river for free, it only gets 3 cards to look at before it has to face the all-in flop bet. I think QJs will flop two-pair/trips something like 1 in 20, and flush draw/OESD/two-pair/trips something like 1 in 4?

[stupidsucker]

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 2: Raising more pre-flop is a must. With a limper behind, 4-5xBB is a good sized raise as opposed to the 2.5xBB raise you made. I'm not sure if this would have changed anything, but the limper would have had to make a major mistake calling such a raise with only QJ. The small raise is giving him the correct odds to call.


[/ QUOTE ]

I agree I should have raised more here.. I was short stacked and really wanted to double up. I got over excited of the thought of tripling so I didnt raise enough.. I should have raised 250ish or just pushed.
BUT what do you think about calling that flop? This is my main concern.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 9: I'm not a big fan of min raises

[/ QUOTE ]

I try to mix it up a little, but I certainly undrstand why.

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 13: Reraise, don't call pre-flop.

[/ QUOTE ]
I didnt give it any thought about not being able to reraise if the limper went all in. In hinde sight Yes I would have minreraised here.


Thanks for your input Braves

[AtlBrvs4Life]

With two all-ins in front of you on hand 2, this might be a spot to lay down AA. There are a lot of hands that beat you. That being said, I don't think the call is that bad with the amount of poor play at the $20 level.

[Bmurn]

glad to see you got a "slew" of replies ss /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
but i dont really have time right now to view all the hands. I was just wondering about before, you said that you were gonna play 20-40 games a day, and youve only played 66 10's!!! thats like 2 days worth. Whats going on? dont get me wrong, your doing great! but i think you could be doing even better if you stuck to your 20-40 games per day...

[stupidsucker]

I want to average about 30 games a day/5 days a week. A few rl things have gotten in the way, and I thank you for keeping me in check.

I dont want to play during the daylight hours. I ran into a tough streak the other day, and when that happens I like to back off a little bit, and relax.

I have played 66 of the 10's and 56 of the 20's.

One of my first posts was delays and snags because I took a trip to the Bay, and didnt return till after the weekend.

I didnt really get underway with the project full time till 7/9 and I played 34 that day.
7/10 I played 21
7/11 38(and made $64 for my trouble)
7/12 11 and brought myself out of the slump making $318 in those 11

That night I ate dinner late and fell sound asleep on my couch so I called it another early night. I will try to keep an everage of 150 a week of which I am behind.

This project started 7/1 but for the most part didnt really get in full swing till 7/9 (4 days not counting today) so I am not too far behind at all having played an average of 26 a day. I even hope to play enough to make it an average of 25 since the 1st of July. I hope I have the willpower.

[stupidsucker]

For those that watched the display on the replayer... can you tell me please..

was it too long? too short? just right? were the pauses and comments placed well?

I want to end up having a good project here, so any help is great.

I think my next one will be called "BUSTED"tag line "To push or not to push" and I will put in all the times I busted so we can see how many could be avoided. This is NOT about bad beats. It will have a few, but more or less its just about poker aggression.