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vetman81

07-12-2004, 01:03 PM

Here are some hands from a PP 10+1 SNG I just finished. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to sort through these. Those of us who need the help truly appreciate it.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed)

MP1 (t905)
MP2 (t855)
MP3 (t680)
CO (t925)
Button (t775)
SB (t810)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t650)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t15, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t15, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls t15, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t70) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
Hero bets t50, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t50, Button folds.

Turn: (t170) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t50, MP1 raises to t200, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t420

Results in white below: 
No showdown. MP1 wins t420. 

Should I have bet more on the flop? Obviously the guy that called had a bad draw, could I have bet enough to get rid of him?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed)

SB (t760)
BB (t825)
UTG (t1190)
UTG+1 (t500)
UTG+2 (t745)
MP1 (t800)
Hero (t675)
MP3 (t1130)
CO (t760)
Button (t615)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t15, Hero calls t15, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t90) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t90) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets t15, Hero folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls t15.

River: (t120) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG bets t400, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: t520

Results in white below: 
UTG shows 9h 7h (straight, ten high).
Outcome: UTG wins t520. 

Should I limp in, raise, fold? Normally I limp in with small pairs and hope for a set.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed)

BB (t785)
UTG (t2360)
UTG+1 (t610)
MP1 (t1010)
Hero (t525)
CO (t1540)
Button (t770)
SB (t400)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50, MP1 folds, Hero calls t50, CO folds, Button calls t50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t300) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t300) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t175, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t475 (All-In), Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls t300.

River: (t1250) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1250

Results in white below: 
UTG shows As 3c (one pair, aces).
Hero shows 5c 5h (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins t1250. 

Same as last hand, just this time I got lucky.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed)

CO (t635)
Button (t1560)
SB (t835)
BB (t910)
Hero (t1250)
UTG+1 (t1740)
MP1 (t720)
MP2 (t350)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero raises to t350, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: t500

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t500. 

How is the size of the bet on this one?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed)

MP1 (t635)
MP2 (t785)
CO (t1110)
Hero (t1250)
SB (t3150)
BB (t720)
UTG (t350)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t100, CO folds, Hero calls t100, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (t350) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets t100, Hero folds, BB raises to t200, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: t650

Results in white below: 
No showdown. BB wins t650. 

I didn't want to raise because there was a short stack that had called and was likely to go all in, so I limped in. Is this the wrong way to look at it? Since this is how I am looking at the hand, should I have played it at all?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed)

BB (t635)
UTG (t585)
MP1 (t1010)
Hero (t1150)
CO (t3100)
Button (t1270)
SB (t250)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises to t350, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB raises to t635 (All-In), Hero calls t285.

Flop: (t1320) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t1320) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t1320) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1320

Results in white below: 
BB shows As Kh (one pair, kings).
Hero shows Th Tc (one pair, tens).
Outcome: BB wins t1320. 

Comments?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed)

SB (t1370)
BB (t585)
UTG (t1920)
Hero (t615)
CO (t2540)
Button (t970)

Preflop: Hero TEHero%%%%%Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, Hero raises to t615 (All-In), CO raises to t1030, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls t385 (All-In).

Flop: (t2330) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t2330) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t2330) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t2330

Results in white below: 
BB shows Kd Td (one pair, queens).
Hero shows Qc Kh (three of a kind, queens).
CO shows Js Ad (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins t1915. CO wins t415. 

I didn't think I had any other choice but to go all in on this one.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t500 (3 handed)

SB (t2920)
Hero (t3330)
Button (t1750)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Button raises to t1700, SB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2450

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Button wins t2450. 

Should I have called this one? I thought that I could fold this and wait for a better spot, so this is what I did. At best he has a small pp, and more likely an Ax or K with higher kicker, so I folded.

Jason Strasser

07-12-2004, 02:33 PM

Vetman,

Here's what I'd do, but I think there are a lot of ways to play these hands.

[ QUOTE ]
Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 9.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t15, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t15, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls t15, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t70) T, 7, A (4 players)
Hero bets t50, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t50, Button folds.

[/ QUOTE ]

Alrighty. I play this hand one way. Many people call me weak tight in this spot, and maybe it is a better strategy for games where people won't typically limp with A3o... Of course, people at all levels do that somtimes though. However, I think the way to play this is to check the flop. If you see a bet that is not suspicious from a solid player, fold, easy. If some lag on the button autobets, make a solid check raise. If it checks through, bet the pot on the turn if a non threatening card comes up. That is my typical line for this type of hand and it works for me. Your line is not good, because you hate getting called--you have no idea where you stand. You get no information by betting small and watching people call--they could be calling you correctly with hands you beat, and hands you don't beat.

Hand 2 with 77 is perfect.

Hand 3 with 55 is perfect. You didn't get lucky. Your opponent with A3o is a moron.

Hand 4 with AQo is perfect.

Hand 5 with KQo is tough. I agree, you probably do not want to put the small stack all-in. At the level I play at, I am VERY suspicious when a small stack limps, it usually means they want to get as much money in the pot with a big hand (I don't advocate playing like that). However, you have position, I think limping behind with KQo and playing some poker is fine. I like your line here, I think it is well played. There are good arguments also for folding PF, and for pushing all-in.

Hand 6 with TT I push preflop. So many flops stink with TT, and you are definitely close enough to 10x the BB. I push here all day. You lost a coinflip, you played this right.

Hand 7 with KQo is perfect, nice flop.

Hand 8 with K6o is good too. I like the fold here. Generally I will call with 23o if the raise is 1BB. Here, the raise is 2 and change BB, and I think that you can easily fold K6o. You want to be the aggressor with a hand like K6o, not the caller.

Hope this little thingy helped, as you can see, you played a lot of these hands very well IMO. A few of them need some work.

Good luck,
-Jason

ddubois

07-12-2004, 04:14 PM

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, Q.
Hero raises to t350, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

350 is a hefty chunk of your stack. If it is your intention to fold to a re-raise, I think you could accomplish the same results with a 275 bet. If you are intending to call an all-in re-raise, then the conventional recommendation I see on these forums is to pusher than the pushee.

LSUfan1

07-12-2004, 04:28 PM

I would agree with almost everything said by the first reply. I would have played this fairly well the same as well.

The one thing I will add is that some people advocate raising any ace or king when down to 3 in the SNG's. The way they see it, you will take a few down right there, and if you dont you have a big card going in heads up. This is the way I play late! Take that as you will, and good luck in the future.

PS..I play the low pocket pairs exactly the same, and that is a perfect play not just luck! Keep it up