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Rooster71
07-11-2004, 01:54 PM
Please select one option below. The first five options refer to any time spent listening to his show, whether it be 3 hours per day or 1 hour per month.

KidParty
07-11-2004, 02:04 PM
It is sad to see a poll like this...While I don't agree with what Rush says I dont think this poll is fair...I listen to the show because it is entertaining...The man goes out of his way to push people's button...(apparantly it has worked on you)...I was a political science major and I know the lack of sense of humor most political diehards have whether they be right or left wingers...No where was there an option for "I find him entertaining while I don't always agree with him"...You may hate the man for his politcal views and you are free to do so but millions of Americans listen every day for numerous reasons...You just insulted many people because of your hate...You should just learn to change the channel if you don't want to listen...Anyways have a good day.

adios
07-11-2004, 02:12 PM
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Kurn, son of Mogh
07-11-2004, 02:16 PM
This post is stupid.

Rush's shtick is to voice certain views in such a way as to be controversial. I view Rush the same way I view Michael Moore. Both have found a very lucrative way to enrich themselves. Anyone who takes either of them as being serious political pundits needs to get out more (or at least learn to formulate their own opinions).

Rooster71
07-11-2004, 02:30 PM
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It is sad to see a poll like this...While I don't agree with what Rush says I dont think this poll is fair...I listen to the show because it is entertaining...The man goes out of his way to push people's button...(apparantly it has worked on you)...I was a political science major and I know the lack of sense of humor most political diehards have whether they be right or left wingers...No where was there an option for "I find him entertaining while I don't always agree with him"...You may hate the man for his politcal views and you are free to do so but millions of Americans listen every day for numerous reasons...You just insulted many people because of your hate...You should just learn to change the channel if you don't want to listen...Anyways have a good day.

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"I just insulted many people"... Rush Limbaugh insults many people every day! At least when his show is on.

"You may hate the man for his politcal views." I don't hate Rush Limbaugh for his political views. My problem with him is that he speaks his views as if they were the TRUTH and he has millions of disciples that happily spread his pathologic lies and skewed ideas.

In addition to this, I dislike Limbaugh for WHAT HE IS. Which is a pompuous, arrogant, hypocritical windbag.

Kurn, son of Mogh
07-11-2004, 02:34 PM
I dislike Limbaugh for WHAT HE IS. Which is a pompuous, arrogant, hypocritical windbag.

If you don't feel the same about Michael Moore, you're a partisan dog.

adios
07-11-2004, 02:35 PM
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Rooster71
07-11-2004, 02:49 PM
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I dislike Limbaugh for WHAT HE IS. Which is a pompuous, arrogant, hypocritical windbag.

If you don't feel the same about Michael Moore, you're a partisan dog.

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For the most part, I think the same thing about Moore. But nowhere near the same level as Limbaugh. However, I wouldn't call Moore a hypocrite. I haven't seen any evidence to support that.

Anyone who doesn't see Limbaugh as a hypocrite is totally blind to any facts. There are probably hundreds of reasons he is a hypocrite, but the two that come to mind are his lack of military service and his drug use. Limbaugh is Mr. Tough when it comes to bombing and sending troops into any conflict. However, Mr. Limbaugh used an "anal cyst" on his ass as his reason to not serve in Vietnam. That's a perfect example of a "Chickenhawk" if there ever was one.

Regarding his drug use, he talked about his golfing game almost daily during his shows over the past three or four years (with no mention of any back problems) . Then when he goes public about his drug addiction, he blames disabling back pain. OK, I'm not a doctor but I don't see how someone who is enduring this god-awful back pain can be such an avid golfer.

benfranklin
07-11-2004, 02:51 PM
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Rush Limbaugh insults many people every day! At least when his show is on.


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Some one ties you to a chair and makes you listen /images/graemlins/confused.gif Call 911 and report this.

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My problem with him is that he speaks his views as if they were the TRUTH

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Everyone speaks their views as if they were the truth. Ya gotta believe!
(Otherwise there would be no poker games.) /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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he has millions of disciples that happily spread his pathologic lies and skewed ideas.


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I know. They are really annoying, going door to door, handing out pamphlets. Worse than Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses.

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I dislike Limbaugh for WHAT HE IS. Which is a pompuous, arrogant, hypocritical windbag.

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A lot of that is an obvious act, which I find amusing. I don't always agree with Rush, and he often carries things to great extremes, but he does come up with different ways of looking at things. I only wish there was someone similar on the other extreme. I'd listen to both. With an open mind.

Rooster71
07-11-2004, 02:56 PM
"I know you must listen to Limbaugh more than I do, amazing." So what you are saying is that you cannot come to his defense, but you can say that I listen to him and that somehow proves a point?

I don't like Ken Lay, but I watched his press conference last week. Am I know a Ken Lay fan?

adios
07-11-2004, 03:01 PM
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Rooster71
07-11-2004, 03:07 PM
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Rush Limbaugh insults many people every day! At least when his show is on.


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Some one ties you to a chair and makes you listen /images/graemlins/confused.gif Call 911 and report this.

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My problem with him is that he speaks his views as if they were the TRUTH

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Everyone speaks their views as if they were the truth. Ya gotta believe!
(Otherwise there would be no poker games.) /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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he has millions of disciples that happily spread his pathologic lies and skewed ideas.


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I know. They are really annoying, going door to door, handing out pamphlets. Worse than Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses.

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I dislike Limbaugh for WHAT HE IS. Which is a pompuous, arrogant, hypocritical windbag.

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A lot of that is an obvious act, which I find amusing. I don't always agree with Rush, and he often carries things to great extremes, but he does come up with different ways of looking at things. I only wish there was someone similar on the other extreme. I'd listen to both. With an open mind.

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It would be very interesting to have someone on the other extreme host a show of that type. You mentioned listening to a show with an "open mind", I don't think that most of the Limbaugh Lunatics listen to his show with an open mind. Every time I listen, I hear caller after caller praising Rush as if he were a God. "Dittos" "Dittos" "Dittos" and statements like "I used to be a liberal, but after listening to your show, I have seen the light!"

Yes, I occasionally listen to his show. Why do people on this thread want to make a point out of that? If I had never listened to his show, the same people would be saying "what do you know? You have never even listened to his show."

Rooster71
07-11-2004, 03:09 PM
No, but you stated that it was amazing that I listened to his show more than you. To me, this means that you are questioning why I would ever listen. I explained why by providing an example.

adios
07-11-2004, 03:14 PM
a hateful, doper, arrogant, silly, windbag. Life's too short.

benfranklin
07-11-2004, 03:39 PM
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Yes, I occasionally listen to his show. Why do people on this thread want to make a point out of that?

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The point is that you seem to be taking Rush very personally. And you give neither Rush nor his listeners any credit for expressing their views in good faith. Yes, a great part of the show is preaching to the choir. But the show can be interesting and thought provoking. Your comments about Rush and his listeners are as one-sided and extreme as Rush's views about Democrats. He gives the Dems no credit for ever being correct or acting in good faith.

nothumb
07-11-2004, 03:45 PM
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While I don't agree with what Rush says I dont think this poll is fair...

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Yeah, poor Rush! Poor, defenseless Rush! This kind of liberal hate-speech is what drove him to pop all those Oxycontin in the first place... in fact, we should probably serve his jail term for him because we're really the ones at fault for his depravity! (Everyone knows how strongly Rush supports sending drug addicts to jail.)

Seriously, how can you talk about 'fair' for a man that holds up a picture of a 13-year-old girl and calls her the 'White House dog?'

The man is far worse than Michael Moore any day of the week. He lies, distorts and attacks far more viciously and egregiously than anyone, with the possible exception of Ann Coulter.

He claimed there are more Indians alive today than there were when Columbus landed.

He claimed there are more trees, too.

He also claimed cigarettes don't cause cancer.

The man is not the least bit principled or interesting. He is a one-dimensional attack-dog for a laundry list of far-right causes, debasing political debate in this country with every word he spews. There are a host of conservative radio personalities far more worthy of air time.

NT

sameoldsht
07-11-2004, 04:11 PM
Stupid poll that I won't dignify with an answer.

Sheeesh - you hate him so much, turn the damn channel and forget he exists. It'll probably add a few years to your life.

Kurn, son of Mogh
07-11-2004, 04:16 PM
I wouldn't call Moore a hypocrite

No. Nothing hypocritical at all about making millions bad mouthing capitalism.

sameoldsht
07-11-2004, 04:37 PM
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Regarding his drug use, he talked about his golfing game almost daily during his shows over the past three or four years (with no mention of any back problems) . Then when he goes public about his drug addiction, he blames disabling back pain. OK, I'm not a doctor but I don't see how someone who is enduring this god-awful back pain can be such an avid golfer.


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Are you serious? You don't see how someone who is prescribed painkillers for a particular condition might be relieved of the pain caused by that condition? I suffer with back pain on occasion from an accident in high school - the pain goes away when I take painkillers. Duh...

GWB
07-11-2004, 04:37 PM
Who is this Rush person?

All I know is what Dick told me, "If I'm not around, get your marching orders from Rush."

So I guess this Rush guy must be important.

John Cole
07-11-2004, 08:19 PM
I needed to answer #4 because of your failure to include this option: Limbaugh is on the same radio station as the Boston Red Sox, and some days I get in the car, and the station is already tuned in from the night before.

Strange you wouldn't have included it.

daryn
07-11-2004, 08:26 PM
is rush even on the radio here in boston? i have never heard him on the air before, ever.

Kurn, son of Mogh
07-11-2004, 11:14 PM
630 AM in Providence, I'm not sure about 680 in Boston.

MMMMMM
07-11-2004, 11:15 PM
"However, I wouldn't call Moore a hypocrite. I haven't seen any evidence to support that."

Any multimillionaire who claims to be a proponent of "wealth redistribution" who doesn't voluntarily redistribute a massive percentage of his own personal wealth is a hypocrite, in my book.

Also, as Kurn pointed out, Moore bad-mouths the very system that allowed him the opportunity to become rich and famous.

Kurn, son of Mogh
07-11-2004, 11:16 PM
Come on, John, flip to WEEI for your sports talk(now heard in RI on 103.7 FM) In the morning show, you can hear Jerry Callahan. After listening to him for a while, Rush'll sound like a New-Deal liberal. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Rooster71
07-13-2004, 11:37 PM
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I wouldn't call Moore a hypocrite

No. Nothing hypocritical at all about making millions bad mouthing capitalism.

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Ok....please show me one instance of Moore bad-mouthing capitalism, just one example!. I'm asking for an actual example, not some argument about how he did a film on some company where he had some issue (like polluting, corporate fraud, etc.).

Just one simple example where Moore is badmouthing capitalism, that is all I ask.

Rooster71
07-13-2004, 11:45 PM
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Regarding his drug use, he talked about his golfing game almost daily during his shows over the past three or four years (with no mention of any back problems) . Then when he goes public about his drug addiction, he blames disabling back pain. OK, I'm not a doctor but I don't see how someone who is enduring this god-awful back pain can be such an avid golfer.


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Are you serious? You don't see how someone who is prescribed painkillers for a particular condition might be relieved of the pain caused by that condition? I suffer with back pain on occasion from an accident in high school - the pain goes away when I take painkillers. Duh...

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Duh... When your pain goes away, do you engage in activities that will further exacerbate your injuries?

Limbaugh was (or is) a DOPEHEAD. Your argument is ridiculous, Oxycontin is what he was taking (among other things). Oxycontin is a serious painkiller, not the type that is ever prescribed for back pain. You would most likely be prescribed Oxycontin is you are dying from cancer, are in unbearable pain and have a very short time left to live. What is you explanation for this? Let me guess...."it was a really painful back injury." HAHAHAHA

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 12:00 AM
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"However, I wouldn't call Moore a hypocrite. I haven't seen any evidence to support that."

Any multimillionaire who claims to be a proponent of "wealth redistribution" who doesn't voluntarily redistribute a massive percentage of his own personal wealth is a hypocrite, in my book.

Also, as Kurn pointed out, Moore bad-mouths the very system that allowed him the opportunity to become rich and famous.

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What type of wealth redistribution are you referring to? I assume you are talking about the progressive tax structure. Unfortunately, that is the law of this country. "Wealth redistribution" is just a BS catch-phrase, this concept is prevalent in every society.

So in regards to Moore giving his wealth away....if I follow your logic that would mean that if a wealthy medical doctor supported free health care (provided by the government, free to the patient) for the poor, but he did not provide free health care (out of his own pocket) to the poor, then he would be a hypocrite? Is this correct?

The above is just an example, but the same point would apply to many situations.

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 12:09 AM
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Yes, I occasionally listen to his show. Why do people on this thread want to make a point out of that?

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The point is that you seem to be taking Rush very personally. And you give neither Rush nor his listeners any credit for expressing their views in good faith. Yes, a great part of the show is preaching to the choir. But the show can be interesting and thought provoking. Your comments about Rush and his listeners are as one-sided and extreme as Rush's views about Democrats. He gives the Dems no credit for ever being correct or acting in good faith.

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You are correct. There are actually thinking people who listen to his show. But what is really frustrating to me is trying to have a logical discussion with someone who does not argue points, but simply parrots what they heard on Limbaugh's show (in a very smug manner). For the most part these people cannot prove or defend any of their points, they just "know" that it's the gospel because they heard it on his show. I can't speak for other parts of the country, but in the Dallas area there are alot of these individuals.

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 12:12 AM
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While I don't agree with what Rush says I dont think this poll is fair...

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Yeah, poor Rush! Poor, defenseless Rush! This kind of liberal hate-speech is what drove him to pop all those Oxycontin in the first place... in fact, we should probably serve his jail term for him because we're really the ones at fault for his depravity! (Everyone knows how strongly Rush supports sending drug addicts to jail.)

Seriously, how can you talk about 'fair' for a man that holds up a picture of a 13-year-old girl and calls her the 'White House dog?'

The man is far worse than Michael Moore any day of the week. He lies, distorts and attacks far more viciously and egregiously than anyone, with the possible exception of Ann Coulter.

He claimed there are more Indians alive today than there were when Columbus landed.

He claimed there are more trees, too.

He also claimed cigarettes don't cause cancer.

The man is not the least bit principled or interesting. He is a one-dimensional attack-dog for a laundry list of far-right causes, debasing political debate in this country with every word he spews. There are a host of conservative radio personalities far more worthy of air time.

NT

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I agree 100%.

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 12:14 AM
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Rush's shtick is to voice certain views in such a way as to be controversial. I view Rush the same way I view Michael Moore. Both have found a very lucrative way to enrich themselves. Anyone who takes either of them as being serious political pundits needs to get out more (or at least learn to formulate their own opinions).

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So very true. I just wish more people were able to formulate their own views without having to listen to Limbaugh or Moore.

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 12:18 AM
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Stupid poll that I won't dignify with an answer.

Sheeesh - you hate him so much, turn the damn channel and forget he exists. It'll probably add a few years to your life.

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Thanks man, this is the best laugh I've had all day! You say "stupid poll that I won't dignify with an answer." Yet you go ahead and take the time and effort to respond anyway.

Utah
07-14-2004, 12:21 AM
My problem with him is that he speaks his views as if they were the TRUTH and he has millions of disciples that happily spread his pathologic lies and skewed ideas.

Can you give me an example of one of his lies. Just one. He has some skewed ideas but I have yet to hear him lie.

jokerswild
07-14-2004, 12:33 AM
Hi Welcher,
I've heard him for about 10 minutes a few times because he's on the same station as the local baseball club. He lied more than Bill Clinton did in 4 years in those few minutes.

Seriously, besides the fact that he distorts anything he can, his blatant anti-Semitism and hatred for blacks, he 's lied constantly about his health problems. His drug addiction would be sad, other than he has preached that white collar drug addicts should go to prison for the same crime.

If you listen to him regularly, and never have heard him lie, then you are less intelligent than I thought.

MMMMMM
07-14-2004, 12:36 AM
"What type of wealth redistribution are you referring to?"

My guess is that Moore is for all intents and purposes a Socialist--and quite possibly, a closet or latent Communist.

"I assume you are talking about the progressive tax structure."

Nope, but I don't doubt Moore that supports more and more taxes.

"Unfortunately, that is the law of this country."

Glad you agree it is unfortunate.

""Wealth redistribution" is just a BS catch-phrase, this concept is prevalent in every society."

Again, unfortunately.

"So in regards to Moore giving his wealth away....if I follow your logic that would mean that if a wealthy medical doctor supported free health care (provided by the government, free to the patient) for the poor, but he did not provide free health care (out of his own pocket) to the poor, then he would be a hypocrite? Is this correct?"

You bet. Any wealthy doctor who supports "free" health care but who does not provide any free or discounted health care for some poorer people is IMO a hypocrite.

"The above is just an example, but the same point would apply to many situations."

Indeed it would.

Utah
07-14-2004, 12:37 AM
Please dont respond to my posts

MMMMMM
07-14-2004, 12:44 AM
"He claimed there are more Indians alive today than there were when Columbus landed."

Sounds surprising, doesn't it? Might it possibly be true???

I don't know if it is true or not.

Here's something surprising: there are more deer in the USA than when the Pilgrims landed. Approximately seven times as many, in fact. That's what happens when you remove the natural predators of a species that adapts well to semi-rural areas and suburbia.

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 01:32 AM
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My problem with him is that he speaks his views as if they were the TRUTH and he has millions of disciples that happily spread his pathologic lies and skewed ideas.

Can you give me an example of one of his lies. Just one. He has some skewed ideas but I have yet to hear him lie.

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Typical conservative response...don't answer the question, just turn it around. Well, I'll go ahead and humor you. Last year, Limbaugh claimed (numerous times) that Bill Clinton was instrumental in North Korea obtaining nuclear weapons.

Then we have Limbaugh's claim that volcanoes do more harm to the ozone layer than human-produced chemicals.

One of my favorite Rush whoppers is the one where he says that poverty and economic disparities between the lower and upper classes were greater during the 1950's than in the 1980's. This can be found on page 84 of his "I Told You So" book.

We can go back to '94 for a real fun one where he says that "it has not been proven that nicotine is addictive, the same with cigarettes causing emphysema."

The one that really shows Limbaugh's intelligence is the statement that "we have more acreage of forest land in the United States today than we did at the time the constitution was written."

I could go on and on, but it would be a waste of my time.

jokerswild
07-14-2004, 01:40 AM
To bad. You shouldn't have welched.

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 01:40 AM
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"What type of wealth redistribution are you referring to?"

My guess is that Moore is for all intents and purposes a Socialist--and quite possibly, a closet or latent Communist.

"I assume you are talking about the progressive tax structure."

Nope, but I don't doubt Moore that supports more and more taxes.

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I am asking "what type of wealth redistribution are you referring to?" because I would like to know. If you are saying he is a communist, then I would like to read some documentation of this. I'm not trying to be an ass, but honestly I have not seen much information online regarding his political views other than the disagreements with Bush policy. He is not an elected official, so he has no public "platform," this is why I am wanting to read this info first-hand.

elwoodblues
07-14-2004, 09:05 AM
Al Gore claimed he invented the internet.

Utah
07-14-2004, 09:12 AM
Well, I am not a conservative and I wont vote for Bush. But hey, I guess thats a typical liberal response. How dare someone question the supreme wisdom of a liberal!!! If you do you are clearly a zombie Fox News watching, Limbaugh listening, cant think for yourself moron.

And, if you got off your pseudo intellectual high horse for half a sec you would see that I simply asked for examples, which you did provide - although I disagree with.

Nothing you listed I would consider a lie. Wrong maybe, but nothing appears to be a lie. Some are clearly just opinions.

I would think it would be very easy to find thousands of factual errors from someone who speaks off the cuff for 4 hours a day for year after year. Nothing shocking there.

MMMMMM
07-14-2004, 09:39 AM
I don't know; I was just guessing about Moore--but I'll bet it's a pretty fair guess.

jokerswild
07-14-2004, 10:52 AM
What a below average intelligence sucker you are, welcher.
I'd bet that you paid a pretty sum to the person that faked your IQ test. Pay someone enough, and anybody will call you a wonder. The more you post, the more the truth comes out.

You certainly qualify for non intellectual.

adios
07-14-2004, 11:25 AM
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jokerswild
07-14-2004, 11:30 AM
I'd suggest reading about the Spanish civil war. Poor adios can't handle the truth.

Lorca was another beautiful mind executed by people like you.

nothumb
07-14-2004, 11:42 AM
M,

According to the BIA there were probably about 15 million 'Indians' in the US when Columbus landed.

Today there are fewer than 2 million that claim any Indian heritage (at last count I read several years ago; I think we can assume they have not multiplied exponentially), and many of those, of course, are not purely Indian or even a large percentage. And some of them just want to collect our rake. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

So, in this case, no, it doesn't happen to be true.

NT

elwoodblues
07-14-2004, 11:57 AM
Maybe he was referring to people living in India. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

El Barto
07-14-2004, 11:57 AM
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M,

According to the BIA there were probably about 15 million 'Indians' in the US when Columbus landed.

Today there are fewer than 2 million that claim any Indian heritage (at last count I read several years ago; I think we can assume they have not multiplied exponentially), and many of those, of course, are not purely Indian or even a large percentage. And some of them just want to collect our rake. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

So, in this case, no, it doesn't happen to be true.

NT

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Most people who have American Indian ancestors don't know it. If you can trace your ancestry to people living in America around the civil war, odds are high that you are a descendant of Amerindians. In colonial times there were plenty of inter-marriages and "adoption" of hostages.

You are aware that the overwhelming majority of citizens of countries like Mexico and most of the rest of Latin America has Amerindian ancestry, aren't you?

adios
07-14-2004, 12:11 PM
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MMMMMM
07-14-2004, 12:15 PM
jokerswild, I suggest you do whatever it takes in order to calm down. Adios and Utah are not your enemies. For that matter, neither am I.

People can disagree with you without being fascists. I know that might be hard to believe sometimes (especially when discussing political matters), but it is true.

nothumb
07-14-2004, 12:16 PM
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You are aware that the overwhelming majority of citizens of countries like Mexico and most of the rest of Latin America has Amerindian ancestry, aren't you?

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Yes. This had to do with the US only.

I'm not sure what you mean to imply by this post. The vast majority of Native Americans were killed in conflicts with the US government, in forced marches West, etc. It seems to me that what Rush was saying was intended to deny that we had essentially attempted genocide against Native Americans, systematically disrupting their civilization, moving them west, undermining their culture, giving them diseases, etc. To this end he used a wildly inaccurate statistic, as he does often.

NT

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 05:44 PM
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Well, I am not a conservative and I wont vote for Bush. But hey, I guess thats a typical liberal response. How dare someone question the supreme wisdom of a liberal!!! If you do you are clearly a zombie Fox News watching, Limbaugh listening, cant think for yourself moron.

And, if you got off your pseudo intellectual high horse for half a sec you would see that I simply asked for examples, which you did provide - although I disagree with.

Nothing you listed I would consider a lie. Wrong maybe, but nothing appears to be a lie. Some are clearly just opinions.

I would think it would be very easy to find thousands of factual errors from someone who speaks off the cuff for 4 hours a day for year after year. Nothing shocking there.

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Partly correct, however some of the info I listed was published in his books. Most people try to verify information prior to placing it in print. It's really hard to "shoot from the hip" when writing a book.

Sometimes it's really hard to determine the difference between someone telling lies and someone who simply doesn't know what he is talking about. While I believe Limbaugh is a liar (my belief), the majority of his factual errors are just a result of him shooting off his mouth without having any clue as to what he's talking about.

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 05:49 PM
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Al Gore claimed he invented the internet.

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Thanks for reminding everyone of this statement by Gore. The whole landscape of the discussion has been changed!

For God's sake, Al Gore hasn't been in office for almost four years and he's not currently seeking office. What does your statement have to do with Rush Limbaugh?

jcx
07-14-2004, 06:27 PM
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Rush Limbaugh insults many people every day! At least when his show is on.


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Some one ties you to a chair and makes you listen /images/graemlins/confused.gif Call 911 and report this.

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My problem with him is that he speaks his views as if they were the TRUTH

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Everyone speaks their views as if they were the truth. Ya gotta believe!
(Otherwise there would be no poker games.) /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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he has millions of disciples that happily spread his pathologic lies and skewed ideas.


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I know. They are really annoying, going door to door, handing out pamphlets. Worse than Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses.

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I dislike Limbaugh for WHAT HE IS. Which is a pompuous, arrogant, hypocritical windbag.

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A lot of that is an obvious act, which I find amusing. I don't always agree with Rush, and he often carries things to great extremes, but he does come up with different ways of looking at things. I only wish there was someone similar on the other extreme. I'd listen to both. With an open mind.

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It would be very interesting to have someone on the other extreme host a show of that type. You mentioned listening to a show with an "open mind", I don't think that most of the Limbaugh Lunatics listen to his show with an open mind. Every time I listen, I hear caller after caller praising Rush as if he were a God. "Dittos" "Dittos" "Dittos" and statements like "I used to be a liberal, but after listening to your show, I have seen the light!"

Yes, I occasionally listen to his show. Why do people on this thread want to make a point out of that? If I had never listened to his show, the same people would be saying "what do you know? You have never even listened to his show."

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Have you not heard of Air America radio? Al Franken, J. Garofalo and many others have been providing liberal talk radio for several months now. No one is listening, and if you check out one of the shows (The O'Franken Factor, for one) you'll soon see why. Mr. Franken, Ms. Garofalo et al may be talented comedians, but they suck at trying to fill 3 hours of talk radio every day. No matter your politcal persuasion, you'll be asleep within 15 mins guaranteed.

jokerswild
07-14-2004, 08:43 PM
Pobrecito Adios, es claro que tu apoyas gente como Peron, Bush, Franco, y Pinochet. Yo se que tu quisiera matarme, pero no puedas. Cuando un idiota dice que le gusta matar toda la gente en Arabia, luego tu piensas que tal persona es un buen persona, pero cuando un persona hecha la culpa donde pertenece, luego, tu lorras.

Es una lastima que tu eres una fascista en vez de solamente un cocoa.

Utah
07-14-2004, 08:59 PM
I think we are in agreement here. I dont doubt that he has lied as I am not a devoted listener or a Rush hater.

However, I have never heard him say a lie that I can point to. Even if he has, I think we all lie. I know I have lied many times in the last few months lol.

Personally, my biggest problem with Rush is that he puts on creme puff callers and I have yet to hear him battle anyone of substance. It makes the show boring for me when trailer trash call in to tell him to keep up the good work. I would love to see him take on Michael Kinsley or some other tough liberal.

Utah
07-14-2004, 08:59 PM
Seriously, wasnt Gore instrumental in advancing the Internet, even if he didnt "invent" it?

jcx
07-14-2004, 09:34 PM
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I wouldn't call Moore a hypocrite

No. Nothing hypocritical at all about making millions bad mouthing capitalism.

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Ok....please show me one instance of Moore bad-mouthing capitalism, just one example!. I'm asking for an actual example, not some argument about how he did a film on some company where he had some issue (like polluting, corporate fraud, etc.).

Just one simple example where Moore is badmouthing capitalism, that is all I ask.

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http://www.sundayherald.com/43167

The above link is to a story where Moore states he has no respect for intellectual property (Copyrights).

Here are some quotes attributed to Moore. #4 is the evidence, the others are just for fun (Originally posted in the NY Times)...

1) Americans are the stupidest people in the world.--Michael said this while visiting England.
2) America is to blame for 9/11 and got what it deserved.--said the day after 9/11.
3) The people rebelling in Iraq (the ones taking civilians and military hostage and cutting off their heads) are not insurrectionists. They are the minutemen of Iraq. They are the revolutionists.--said recently when asked about the beheading of one of the civilian hostages.
4) I don't own any stocks because the stock market is corrupt, wrong, and should be done away with.--said in a recent interview

I have also personally watched a MM interview w/ Bill O'Reilly where he stated tax rates for high wage earners should be 70% or more.

Does he need to actually say "I hate Capitalism" in order for you to be satisfied? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a...

elwoodblues
07-14-2004, 10:35 PM
Take a deep breath...relax...okay. Someone asked to name "just one" lie that Limbaugh has said. The first one that came to my mind was that Al Gore claimed he invented the internet. Al Gore never said that. That's what my statement has to do with Rush Limbaugh. It was something that Rush repeated almost daily for at least 6 months and it was a lie. I bet if you asked Joe Rush listener if Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet, he would absolutely agree that he said that. (exhale)

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 11:13 PM
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I wouldn't call Moore a hypocrite

No. Nothing hypocritical at all about making millions bad mouthing capitalism.

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Ok....please show me one instance of Moore bad-mouthing capitalism, just one example!. I'm asking for an actual example, not some argument about how he did a film on some company where he had some issue (like polluting, corporate fraud, etc.).

Just one simple example where Moore is badmouthing capitalism, that is all I ask.

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http://www.sundayherald.com/43167

The above link is to a story where Moore states he has no respect for intellectual property (Copyrights).

Here are some quotes attributed to Moore. #4 is the evidence, the others are just for fun (Originally posted in the NY Times)...

1) Americans are the stupidest people in the world.--Michael said this while visiting England.
2) America is to blame for 9/11 and got what it deserved.--said the day after 9/11.
3) The people rebelling in Iraq (the ones taking civilians and military hostage and cutting off their heads) are not insurrectionists. They are the minutemen of Iraq. They are the revolutionists.--said recently when asked about the beheading of one of the civilian hostages.
4) I don't own any stocks because the stock market is corrupt, wrong, and should be done away with.--said in a recent interview

I have also personally watched a MM interview w/ Bill O'Reilly where he stated tax rates for high wage earners should be 70% or more.

Does he need to actually say "I hate Capitalism" in order for you to be satisfied? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a...

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I'm not saying that Moore doesn't say some really stupid things. My point here involves the anti-capitalist accusations made here in this thread.

So what you are saying is that anyone who thinks that the stock market is "corrupt" or "wrong" is anti-capitalist?

I know alot of people who have been successful in small business and have profited tremendously from the capitalist system. The majority of these people DON'T invest in the stock market for various reasons. Some would even say that it is corrupt.

Rooster71
07-14-2004, 11:19 PM
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Take a deep breath...relax...okay. Someone asked to name "just one" lie that Limbaugh has said. The first one that came to my mind was that Al Gore claimed he invented the internet. Al Gore never said that. That's what my statement has to do with Rush Limbaugh. It was something that Rush repeated almost daily for at least 6 months and it was a lie. I bet if you asked Joe Rush listener if Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet, he would absolutely agree that he said that. (exhale)

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Oh, sorry about that. I actually thought that Gore said that, but I've never researched it. I figured that Limbaugh took it out of context and distorted it like he does so many things.