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me454555
07-06-2004, 05:47 PM
Check out the front page of espn.com. Who woulda thought? What's more interesting is this article

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040617

The author hasn't studied the game as in depth as your average 2+2er but he brings up an interesting point. When many of the top pros go out on day one and a guy with a couple of weeks of experience makes it to day 3, what does that say about role of luck in a tournement like WSOP?

Tournements, by nature, lend themselves more toward the luck side than a ring game. Last year Moneymaker won it and he doesn't get much respect at all, same with Varkony. Is winning the WSOP really that special anymore or is it just like winning any other big tournement?
Navers
07-06-2004, 06:36 PM
There's so much criticism about the WSOP being luck that I actually think there will be less people in the 2005 WSOP than this year. If everyone thinks that the game is luck, fewer people are going to try to play the game. People won't see it as the amateur taking on the pros to win because of his skill, but of the amateur simply getting the cards. The public will know that poker is a fad. If the fad does die down and there are fewer contestants in the WSOP, it will be more strategy based instead of luck-oriented.
Kevroc
07-06-2004, 06:58 PM
Look at all the people that still play roulette and baccarat. People will gamble regardless.
Navers
07-06-2004, 08:18 PM
lots do play, but a lot fewer than those who play poker
krazyace5
07-07-2004, 12:23 AM
I think the opposite would be true, this article paints the picture that it is all luck, I would think that would make more people want to play cause they think they will have a chance to win. I would rather play players that believe it is all luck than those that know there is strategy and skill involved.

Slots are nothing but luck and look at what big money makers they are.
Navers
07-07-2004, 12:38 AM
Is there a such thing as +EV slot machine?
krazyace5
07-07-2004, 02:21 AM
They all are for the casino.
ThePopinjay
07-07-2004, 02:36 AM
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Is there a such thing as +EV slot machine?

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Yea, if you play a machine that hasn't hit in a long time, it's +EV!
pudley4
07-07-2004, 01:15 PM
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Is there a such thing as +EV slot machine?

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Yea, if you play a machine that hasn't hit in a long time, it's +EV!

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Only if it has a progressive jackpot that is large enough.